Sources for “Men’s Rights Versus Feminism”

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The psychological phenomenon in which we divide people into “actors” and “acted upon” is called “moral typecasting”.

We tend to judge male characters by their actions; female characters by their reactions.

Girls view their abilities as passive and unchanging.

We view equally violent female criminals as less violent over time.

An initiative to close down a woman’s prison due to our beliefs that female criminals are less violent.

‘Women and Children’ first indicates both gender-specific care for women and the association of women with vulnerability and weakness.

‘Benevolent sexism’ or ‘chivalry’ is the tendency for people to regard women as both weak and more moral than men.

When we focus on someone’s body–which is what feminists call “objectification”–we care more about their safety and have concern for their wellbeing.

 

Statistics:

Prison Rape:

Summary: Men are more likely to be raped in prison than women are in the general community.

Community Rape:

Summary: If you control for memory errors by asking men and women about sexual violence in the last twelve months, you get parity in victimization in physically forced sex(aka. rape.)

The reason why some studies find 90%+ rates of male perpetration and female victimization is that they rely on statistics that aren’t even measuring the rate of rape in the general population, they’re statistics regarding _who feels empowered to report their rape to the police_. Using them to say anything about rape prevalence is a flat out lie.

Other statistics vary based on the time window they’re using. A twelve month time window finds parity in male and female rape victimization. A five month window finds that men have dropped to 30% of the victims from 50% and a lifetime window sees an even greater drop to 20% of the victims. All because men make their memories conform with the social narrative that female-on-male sexual violence doesn’t exist over time.

According to the CDC’s 12-month statistics (Table 2.0 and 2.1) on sexual violence(the most accurate statistic on prevalence, 50% of the rape victims were male. According to the CDC’s lifetime statistics(the most accurate statistic regarding who is raping who) on who is perpetuating sexual violence, 80% of the men were raped by women.

The studies on relationship sexual violence using the CST or CST2 methodologies find parity between men and women in terms of being forced into sex by the opposite gender.

Here’s a recent world wide survey that found that 3% of men reported forced sex in their heterosexual relationships and 2.3% of women reported forced sex in their heterosexual relationships.

Also recent results on sexual exploitation in corectional facility finds extremely high rates of female on male abuse.

“Approximately 95% of all youth reporting staff sexual misconduct said they had been victimized by female staff. In 2008, 42% of staff in state juvenile facilities were female.”

From “Sexual Victimization in Juvenile Facilities Reported by Youth, 2008-09″

“Most victims of staff sexual misconduct were males; most perpetrators were females. Among male victims of staff sexual misconduct, 69% of those in prison and 64% of those in jails reported sexual activity with female staff. An additional 16% of prison inmates and 18% of jail inmates reported sexual activity with both female and male staff.”

From “Sexual Victimization in Prisons and Jails Reported by Inmates, 2008-09″

Here’s something from a survey of homeless youths:

“Males were just as likely to be sexually exploited as females. Among younger street-involved youth (ages 12-18), a greater percentage of males were exploited (34% vs. 27% of females in 2006). Among older street-involved youth (ages 19-25), a higher percentage of females reported sexual exploitation (53% females vs. 32% males).”

“Although the majority of youth (70%) had been exploited by males, half of youth (50%) had also been exploited by females.”

From “It’s Not What You Think: Sexually Exploited Youth in British Columbia”

Domestic Violence:

Summary: 50% of violent relationships are characterized by mutual violence, more often initiated and sustained by the woman as she is the one who hits first and more frequently. In the 50% of relationships that are characterized by unilateral violence, 70% is a woman beating a man.

Fiebert Bibliography:  This bibliography examines 286 scholarly investigations: 221 empirical studies and 65 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners.  The aggregate sample size in the reviewed studies exceeds 371,600.

The main feminist criticisms of this bibliography are that the CST and CST-2 survey instruments used don’t “contextualize” violence. Proponents of women’s victimhood believe that when violence is “contextualized” we’ll find that women act defensively and that men are the real aggressors.

Murray Strauss responds to the criticisms of the CST and CST-2 here.

Two recent surveys, the 2007 Harvard survey and the CDC’s 2010 NISPSVS suggest otherwise.The Harvard survey found that 50% of couples were mutually violent. In these couples women hit first and more often. it also found that in 70% of unilaterally violent couples, it was the wife who was the violent partner.The CDC’s 2010 NIPSVS found that men are more likely to experience controlling and coercive abuse than men. In the last twelve months(again 12 months is the most accurate window to control for memory errors) 15.2% of men and 10.7% of women said they were victims of “coercive control.” (Tables 4.9 and 4.10)

Finally DV researchers cite the rate of spousal homicide as “evidence” that women are greater victims. However the rate was at near parity in the 1970s—men and women were almost equally likely to kill each other. Since then the rate at which women have been killed by their male partners has declined 7% while the rate that men have been killed by their partners has declined 40% in the same time period. Feminists have managed to cast an improvement in the situation for murdered men over the last forty years as evidence of women’s greater victimhood!

Men Serve More time for the same crime:

“This paper assesses gender disparities in federal criminal cases. It finds large gender gaps favoring women throughout the sentence length distribution (averaging over 60%), conditional on arrest offense, criminal history, and other pre-charge observables. Female arrestees are also significantly likelier to avoid charges and convictions entirely, and twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted. Prior studies have reported much smaller sentence gaps because they have ignored the role of charging, plea-bargaining, and sentencing fact-finding in producing sentences. Most studies control for endogenous severity measures that result from these earlier discretionary processes and use samples that have been winnowed by them. I avoid these problems by using a linked dataset tracing cases from arrest through sentencing. Using decomposition methods, I show that most sentence disparity arises from decisions at the earlier stages, and use the rich data to investigate causal theories for these gender gaps.”

Male versus female Suicide Rates.

Male versus female deaths on the Job. 

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  • Interesting.

    One correction though. In several places you seem to refer to the Conflict Tactics Scale (CTS) as the CST.

    Also one comment. The decline in the rate of men killed by their female partners could be attributed to changes in laws (and law enforcement) that make it easier to remove men from their homes, thereby removing them before circumstances escalate to the point where she decides to kill him. The smaller change in rate for female victims of their male partners would be evidence for this since women are not arrested, charged, and jailed at the same frequency as men. Mandatory arrest laws, primary aggressor policies, and law enforcement training combine to ensure that men are removed and/or arrested even in cases where they are the victim of violence making it difficult for men to trust law enforcement will help them if called. This means that battered men may decide that the best way out is murder. Since law enforcement removes the man, the so-called battered wife does not have to resort to murder as often as she once may have. Notice that I refer to this as murder. I am not a proponent of the legal defense of battered wife syndrome (or battered husband) except in cases where the battering can be proven by something other than the murderer’s testimony and where the severity would warrant it. I think this would rule out the vast majority of these cases.

  • The main feminist criticisms of this bibliography are that the CST and CST-2 survey instruments used don’t “contextualize” violence. Proponents of women’s victimhood believe that when violence is “contextualized” we’ll find that women act defensively and that men are the real aggressors.

    And when an unbiased research instrument, such as the WHO Violence Against Women Instrument (VAWI) used in the WHO WHO Multi-country Study on Women’s Health and Domestic Violence against Women is used in a study to determine the prevalence of victims of intimate partner violence for both genders, what do you think the results are?

    A 2009 Swedish study (published in 2013) using the VAWI, Self-reported exposure to intimate partner violence among women and men in Sweden: results from a population-based survey, made the following findings:

    IPV exposure rates during the past year were similar for women and men for all three forms of violence (Table 2). For example, 8.1% (95% CI 5.9–10.3) of the women and 7.6% (95% CI 5.0–10.2) of the men reported physical IPV. For earlier in life, women had higher exposure rates than men for all three forms of violence: psychological IPV was experienced by 23.6% (95% CI 20.1–27.1) of the women and 13.8% (95% CI 10.4–17.2) of the men; physical IPV by 14.3% (95% CI 11.4–17.2) of the women and 6.8% (95% CI 4.3–9.3) of the men; and sexual IPV by 9.2% (95% CI 6.8–11.6) of the women and 2.5% (95% CI 1.0–4.0) of the men. Most respondents were exposed to the first and comparatively less severe IPV item in each sub-scale and the frequency of exposure was generally 1–2 times during the past year (Table 2).

    The 12 month incidence of exposure to intimate partner violence were extremely similar for both women (8.1%) and men (7.6%).

    Another Swedish study (conducted by one of the same researchers of the first study, and in a similar timeframe) based on the revised Conflict Tactics Scale (CTS2), Men’s and women’s exposure and perpetration of partner violence: an epidemiological study from Sweden, found that:

    More men (11%) than women (8%) reported exposure to physical assault in the past year, while more women reported exposure to sexual coercion. Duration of present relationship ≤ 3 years was identified as a significant risk factor for men’s exposure. Young age, lack of social support and being single, constituted risk factors for women’s exposure. Surprisingly many men (37%) and women (41%) also reported exposure to controlling behaviours.

    Again, both genders exposure to intimate partner violence was quite similar.

    So using two research instruments, one of which “contextualises” the violence, end up with pretty much similar results. This tends to suggest that feminist criticism that the CTS and CTS2 are biased seems quite unfounded.

    Of course the fallout from these findings is quite interesting as well, with the researcher from both studies backing away from the claims she made about the findings. It was all amisunderstanding, and theat any further discussion or debate on the topic is both damaging and disloyal.

  • I think it’s fantastic that TyphonBlue gives the sources she used. Although the regulars here will know many, though not all, of them, if we want to reach a wider audience then we need to back our arguments up with facts like this from academic and mainstream sources every time. And I’m grateful for all the work TyphonBlue does.

    JSM writes:

    Of course the fallout from these findings is quite interesting as well, with the researcher from both studies backing away from the claims she made about the findings. It was all amisunderstanding, and theat any further discussion or debate on the topic is both damaging and disloyal.

    That’s what I thought at first too. However, rereading the paper you linked to (the one using the VAWI) I now have a different opinion. The entire paper reads as if there’s an agenda to interpret the findings to fit with a gender-based violence (ie male-oppressing-female) framework. They report results strikingly at odds with that but the interpretation they push, and the only one they mention in fact, is that past-year incidence rates undercount female victimisation for reasons that they can only “hypothesize” about. An alternative explanation due to TyphonBlue is that a tendency to gradually rationalise and reinterpret one’s own experiences so that they conform with gender norms, together with possible recall bias or unwillingness to disclose abuse, depress reports of male victimisation over long periods of time; in this view, past year incidence is the most reliable measure.

    In light of rereading this paper, I’m less surprised that Krantz later “backpeddled:” it seems she just took for granted that her own interpretation of the results would be accepted by everyone else with as little thought!

  • Please let me know where you are finding the information regarding this statement you are making:

    “Finally DV researchers cite the rate of spousal homicide as “evidence” that women are greater victims. However the rate was at near parity in the 1970s—men and women were almost equally likely to kill each other.”

    I went to the link you have, at US Justice department and did not find anything like that.

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