Verb Interview on the Necessity of the Men’s Movement

No transcript but some contextual information after the cut.

This is audio recording of the interview I did with Saskatoon’s Verb magazine. Adam Hawbodlt was very fair, in my opinion, and allowed me to speak my piece. Since then the magazine has apparently gotten negative feedback alleging that my point of view is “vile” and that they expect Verb magazine to demolish it in a follow up.

I don’t know if this follow up is going to occur but I will ask Mr. Hawbodlt if he would be interested in a rebuttal from myself to my critics.

After all a dialog is what we’re after.

Verb Interview(page six):

Comments to the editor(mostly negative):

Information I sent Adam:

Here are the videos that I told you about:

The University of Toronto Men’s Issues Awareness Society and the Canadian Association for Equality hosted “From Misogyny and Misandry to Intersexual Dialogue” at the University of Toronto and April 4, 2013:

The sound you hear in the background is feminist protesters pounding the ground and door with wooden sticks while chanting.

The description of the lecture is as follows:

“This dialogue exploring how sexism against either women or men robs all of us of value and worth was protested by a loose coalition of groups. In this Video of Part 1 you can hear Dr. Katherine Young discussing the importance of empathy and communication, then Dr. Paul Nathanson courageously shares the story of how his being gay as a youth gave him insights into the constraints imposed by gender roles.”

After the feminist protesters pulled the fire alarm and everyone exited the building this feminist spoke to people outside the building:

The first lecture that feminists protested was one put on by Dr. Warren Farrell, you can view the protest here:

If you want to see more about these events you can view videos on this channel:

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlBoX4hBrM2yUglBQcYVHg

This video is a friend of mine, Karen Straughan, talking about another friend of mine, John Hembling, and his experience of putting up posters in vancouver:

Although he got permission from the construction site owner to put up his posters on the hoarding, that didn’t matter. The feminists–who titled themselves “femistasi”–went out in a large group to confront him and tear down his posters. (This was after they assaulted the site manager when he tried to intervene with them pulling the posters down.)

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Alison has been researching men's issues since her mother gave her "Princess at the Window" by Donna Laframboise in 1994 when she was 16. She's taken part in men's rights communities since she started posting on soc.men in 2003. Since 2011 she's run the gender apostate blog Genderratic with her pal Gingko the wonder leaf and she founded Honey Badger Brigade in 2013 with Hannah Wallen and Karen Straughan. According to Vice the pony she most resembles is Fluttershy.
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  • Ginkgo

    “The feminists–who titled themselves “femistasi”–went out in a large group to confront him and tear down his posters. (This was after they assaulted the site manager when he tried to intervene with them pulling the posters down.)”

    Yet it’s MRAs who are a hate group and the MHRM that is violent. It’s like arguing with a schizophrenic.

  • Snake Oil Baron

    “Femistasi”

    I can’t fathom whether they think the East German equivalent to the SS is a cool name to emulate because they have the whole ‘nazis=bad therefore commies=good’ equation ingrained in their minds or if they just felt that Stasi were supposedly tough and liked how it graphed onto the word “feminist” so well or if there is an even sadder explanation.

    These people are not 2nd grade dropouts who formed a street gang/cult. These are university students, professors, professionals… These human blister packs (thin skin over a bubble of air and a potentially dangerous substance) *are* civilization. From the elite to the street.

    There has got to be a way to get permanently off this planet alive.

  • Tamen

    Snake Oil Baron: You asked: http://www.mars-one.com/en/

  • Ginkgo

    “These people are not 2nd grade dropouts who formed a street gang/cult. These are university students, professors, professionals… ”

    SOB, they are just historically ignorant. They are so lazy that 1989 is an age in the past for them.

    But this can really be useful. These totalitarians have just self-labeld as Stalinists. Excellent.

  • IogSotot

    @Ginkgo:

    “Yet it’s MRAs who are a hate group and the MHRM that is violent. It’s like arguing with a schizophrenic.”

    I can’t get over how much feminists, pro-feminists, white knights, or whatever hate MRAs. I skimmed a rant by a Something Awful goon called Bacter which was appended to a video game Let’s Play. It seemed to have been informed by Manboobz or something. I’ll link it if you like, but it’s puerile. Also not funny.

    OTOH, I take this to be an indicator of how the MRAs are winning despite having a vast numerical disadvantage. No publicity is bad publicity. Granted, this is somewhat attributable to feminists’ almost comical incompetence, but still.

  • German

    Stasi and SS are not really comparable. Please do some research on that.

    Stasi (“Staatssicherheit” translates to state security service) was an exterior and interior secret service and the investigating authority for “political offences”. In plain englisch: The Stasi persecuted and oppressed dissidents with regard to the political doctrine of the ruling authorities. With the political doctrine of the DDR being based on economic marxism and the feminist doctrine being based on gender marxism, a self description with “femistasi” is quite revealing. With regards to what the femistasi does, the term even makes sense.

  • German

    Nonetheless one should also always keep in mind which cruelties the Stasi has committed: This is the improved google translation of a newspaper article:
    http://www.welt.de/regionales/hamburg/article2691128/Ein-Stasi-Opfer-spricht-ueber-die-Leiden-der-Haft.html

    The past catches up with him in a hotel room corridor. Room 107 is at the end of the long hallway. The doors leading off left and right, remind Manfred Springer of the cells of the prison. He takes a deep breath and takes the first steps. His heart begins to race, your hands tremble. “I can do that,” he says to himself. “I can do that.”

    He can not. Tears running down his face as he asks the lady at the hotel reception to give him another room. One that’s not the end of the corridor – as it was in pre-trial detention.

    Memories like these haunt Manfred Springer regularly. He is a victim of the Staatsicherheit. He was 48 months as a political prisoner in different institutions – including 15 months in solitary confinement. After his release – he was ransomed by the West – he took over from West Berlin to Hamburg. He served his term 40 years ago. The wall is long gone. “But the fear remained ,” the man says, struggling for composure .

    This Sunday, on the 19th anniversary of the fall of the wall, when speeches of the GDR and reunification are given, it nearly chokes the 64-year-old. Although the former communist dictatorship is a part of the past, the memories of the atrocities that were done to him during the detention, still haunt him. It hurts him to talk about his experiences. However, he has agreed to report for a research project on political persecution in the Department of Psychology at the University of Hamburg on his experiences. “The victims must not be silenced ,” says Springer.

    Raised by parents that were opponents of the regime, the young man is conspicious with critical comments at school. After a pro forma membership in the FDJ (Free German Youth – GDR youth organization) a apprenticeship as a heating engineer is granted to him. When he and friends are drafted for service in the National People’s Army – and to defend the wall at gunpoint – he decides, along with 15 others to escape over the wall to West Berlin. Two days earlier, on 25 April 1963, the then 18-year-old is stopped with four other men on the highway, arrested and taken to the detention center to Magdeburg.

    Sleep deprivation, harassment and ill-treatment

    What follows is hell. Sleep deprivation, harassment, humiliation, mental and physical abuse – including abuse with sexual nature: “When I pointed my interrogators to the catastrophic conditions in the cell block, they just shrugged. The worst thing was this deprivation of rights: humans ​​were treated like animals.” says the now 64-year-old. After three months it goes to trial – to deter the population, Manfred Springer was convicted in a ​​public process. When he first accidentally sees himself in a mirror after his arrest, he sees a ghost. The prison has drawn on him. “I did not recognize myself.”

    Manfred Springer is convicted of attempted illegal emigration and incitement to illegal emigration to 48 months imprisonment. Instead of giving up like many others and silently enduring the prison, he talks back and can not be intimidated. “I have drawn strength, as I did not let myself be disenfranchise by them.” His behavior is punished with sanctions: After prison labor camp in Gera, the young man is put to the infamous Waldheim in the end of 1963, a few months later he is moved to the secret “Camp X” in Berlin Hohenschönhausen. Because he is pushing for departure on the day of his release from prison to the West, his detention conditions are aggravated. He is moved to the Berlin prison Rummelsburg, is then transferred to a prison in Brandenburg.

    On February 3, 1967, he is finally free. On the same day Manfred Springer travels on the side of the mediating lawyer Wolfgang Vogel at walking pace into the freedom of West Berlin. In July 1970 he moved to Hamburg, where he has relatives. He married, is the father of two daughters – and begins a new life. But the past will not let him go. At a rest stop close to the former border, he suffers a nervous breakdown. He suffers from paranoia and panic attacks. But he does not give up, and is involved in victims’ associations.
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